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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2008 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taboo topic - studio versions BETTER than live???

I'll jump in an agree with you...been saying it for years around here (seriously...well, okay, only two or so).

Take most every song off the great 1970 albums and you will find this to be true.

Why?

Vocals.

The boys just couldn't cut it the way CSN&Y could live. They said it. We heard it. End of story.

Now, sometimes the jams are much more intense, and sometimes, just sometimes, the vocals on a song like UJB are good enough, coupled with the jam, for us to rank the Live version ahead of the studio, but that is rare.

Jerry often lamented their inability to really sing. He even viewed their studio efforts as subpar relative to those of a "real" vocalist. It's not just me--they recognized it as well, so that sorta ends the discussion in my book.

Now, do I think for a minute that the St Stephen of June 68 (three or so available) do not surpass those of Aoxomoxoa? Not for a minute. But, I cannot find a Box, HighTime, Attics, nor BlPeter that beat the studio versions...

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Sep 15, 2008 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taboo topic - studio versions BETTER than live???

William - Great to hear that Jerry and the band were aware of their vocal limitations - they are such an incredible talent and gift to American culture, but they are humans like us all which is what makes the live stuff all the more compelling. No matter how much I love exploring the depths of the live performances, I think I'll always appreciate the occasional listen to the full American Beauty and Workingman's albums, and certain songs from other studio albums (Althea, West LA Fadeaway, King Solomon's, Terrapin to name a few).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2008 9:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taboo topic - studio versions BETTER than live???

Absolutely a gift. Their ability to self-evaluate and reflect only add to their greatness in my book. I don't want to really start beating up on em over it, since certainly some songs were done very well live, vocals included, but for those that req'd precise harmonies and timing, they needed that studio to help them out.

And, when they came close on the vocals, the live energy could add so much more that it can be hard to even compare them.

Almost apples and oranges. Nonetheless, if I really want to impress some one with the lyrics and the harmonies, and convince them that the boys were capable of some real greatness, I grab Beauty or Workingman's and some of those vocal productions can really blow them away...